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Cameron Freerunner
Four Pillars
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.08.20 01:49:00 -
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And so concludes the longest running, most profitable, most meta, most ****-in-your-face scam in EVE history. No other scam will ever come close. |
Cameron Freerunner
Four Pillars
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.08.20 03:12:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:n the same respect however, we believe that the promotion that caused this issue was not representative of the original proposal that was brought to CCP.
Spin spin spin spin spin. You make me sad, CCP. He stuck his **** so far up your ass that you couldn't see straight. Now let's watch the PLEX market unravel. |
Cameron Freerunner
Four Pillars
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:18:00 -
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Andski wrote:an upside is that idiots won't whisper "promo" on fleet comms every 10 minutes
omg the shills were the worst. death to the whisperers! |
Cameron Freerunner
Four Pillars
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:23:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Cameron Freerunner wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:n the same respect however, we believe that the promotion that caused this issue was not representative of the original proposal that was brought to CCP. Spin spin spin spin spin. You make me sad, CCP. He stuck his **** so far up your ass that you couldn't see straight. Now let's watch the PLEX market unravel. Besides being incredibly inappropriate, all I see in your comment is a quote of a reasonable statement supported by SOMER's own document and declaring it to be "spin". In what way is Falcon twisting or mincing words in that comment?
You can't seem to divorce Falcon the person from Falcon the CCP representative. He has the unfortunate task of being the community punching bag (do your duty, sir, we in the corporate world understand your position all too well). Somer scammed CCP and they let themselves be scammed. They were so interested in selling PLEX, they chose not to see the forest for the trees. Go back to being clueless, Derrick. This part of the game is so meta, its off the ******* charts. |
Cameron Freerunner
Four Pillars
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:48:00 -
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Sion Kumitomo wrote:Cameron Freerunner wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:in the same respect however, we believe that the promotion that caused this issue was not representative of the original proposal that was brought to CCP. Spin spin spin spin spin. You make me sad, CCP. He stuck his **** so far up your ass that you couldn't see straight. Now let's watch the PLEX market unravel. Not to be impolite, but are you stupid? Falcon is being more polite here than I would be because Somer's proposal that he gave CCP isn't actually what he did. Go read the document Somer sent them. Pay particular attention to the "no bonus isk" bit and the subtle weasely last line that betrays his actual intent. It's not spin, it's reading comprehension. Come back when you get some.
Somer got them coming and going. He played the ends against the middle. He took advantage of their procedural and organizational weaknesses. As I said in my previous post, Falcon the man and Falcon the Rep are different people. This has nothing to do with him as an individual.
CCP got played ten ways from Sunday. They didn't have the necessary processes in place despite Somer taking them to the limit a year ago. How is it possible that the sales VP didn't act without the tacit approval of upper management? We're not talking about an act in isolation, but an ongoing event over an extended period of time. How could this have escaped CCP's notice? You ever visit Markee Dragon's site? Why is it he's the only person offering 30 day trials?
The original quote implies that "somer told us he was going to do X, but he did Y." So? Did any of you people perform your due diligence? "We're CCP, we deal with a game full of highly intelligent people who bend the rules and engage in emergent gameplay. We totally don't understand how it's possible that someone could lie to us in an email, especially when there's $100,000 in real money on the table."
Please. Who are you kidding? |
Cameron Freerunner
Four Pillars
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2014.08.20 04:51:00 -
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Derrick Miles wrote:Cameron Freerunner wrote:Derrick Miles wrote:Cameron Freerunner wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:n the same respect however, we believe that the promotion that caused this issue was not representative of the original proposal that was brought to CCP. Spin spin spin spin spin. You make me sad, CCP. He stuck his **** so far up your ass that you couldn't see straight. Now let's watch the PLEX market unravel. Besides being incredibly inappropriate, all I see in your comment is a quote of a reasonable statement supported by SOMER's own document and declaring it to be "spin". In what way is Falcon twisting or mincing words in that comment? You can't seem to divorce Falcon the person from Falcon the CCP representative. He has the unfortunate task of being the community punching bag (do your duty, sir, we in the corporate world understand your position all too well). Somer scammed CCP and they let themselves be scammed. They were so interested in selling PLEX, they chose not to see the forest for the trees. Go back to being clueless, Derrick. This part of the game is so meta, its off the ******* charts. CCP Falcon is the community liaison, and I'm willing to bet that nowhere in his job description is 'sit there and be punched'. It does appear that CCP messed up in this case but so far the only real evidence of that is the text file and statement Somer made on his own site that CCP approved it, which hardly constitutes unbiased evidence. Before unleashing your righteous indignation at CCP, perhaps you should wait for the full story. This isn't "meta", it isn't a part of the game at all. It seems like it is a clear violation of the rules for third party developers and the reaction was quick and even included doing their best to keep the community informed. Seems like the only clueless one here is you.
Last post before bed: we went through this a year ago. Word for word. They knew or should have known full well who and what they were dealing with. This is EVE for God's sake. The scam should always be foremost in your mind. |
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